When I posted the first part of my review of BillionGraves.com, I had not yet created an account. This is what happened when I registered and used the site.
Creating an account is free. It was a bit odd, however. I filled in the form (username, email address, and entered the password twice) and got a pop-up message that my registration was complete. I was then directed to the login screen. If I just created an account successfully, why do I have to go through a separate login process?
I logged in and chose the Transcribe tab. I was taken to a random image that needed to be transcribed.
Right away, I could see a problem. There is no link to a help screen. You might ask, “How hard can it be to transcribe a tombstone?” It’s harder than you might think. For example, if a stone has a woman’s maiden name and her married name, where do you put the maiden name? Does it go in the first name field or in the “family names” field? If a tombstone lists the age at death rather than stating the birthday, do you calculate the birthday and enter that or do you leave it blank?
There is no way to mark an image as illegible. I would love to transcribe this little tombstone on the left, but there is no way it can be read.
Many of the tombstones that needed to be transcribed were obviously the reverse side of a tombstone. Which brings up another unfortunate shortcoming of Billion Graves: records can only have one image attached to them. They can have multiple people, but only one image.
I came across this image listed in Evergreen Cemetery in Springville, Utah:
Each name is listed in Billion Graves — but whose children are they? Not only do we miss out on who their mother is, but if we had found her record, we’d miss out on a wonderful list of her children.
Another drawback to having only one image per record is inability to have multiple views. Often on tombstones, the inscription is only legible when read close-up. However, it is good to have a photo of the entire tombstone for context. Yes, you can upload both photos and transcribe both of them, but are the two records connected? Unless someone notices that there are two identical records, it would be easy to look at one and not see the other.
One concern that I had in my first review was that the full record doesn’t show the name of the cemetery. I wondered if that was something that was available only when you logged in. No. Even after logging in, the full record still does not show the name of the cemetery.
Ok, so I’ve explored transcribing and I’ve looked at full records after logging in. What is the upload process like? I’d love to tell you, but I can’t. MAJOR FLAW with Billion Graves: You can only upload photos from your iPhone. What?!?! I spend hours in cemeteries. I go to cemeteries even when I know I don’t have relatives buried there. I go to cemeteries when I’m on vacation. I have more than one thousand tombstone photos sitting on my computer and I cannot upload any of them to Billion Graves.
I understand that the BillionGraves app is designed to allow people to upload their photos and automatically geotag them in the process. That’s cool. I like that concept. However, to completely disregard the contributions that non-iPhone users could make is extraordinarily short-sighted. Right now, not even Android users can upload via a BillionGraves app. Currently, unless you have an iPhone, you’re not going to add any images. BillionGraves reports that they are working on an Android version. But that still leaves out those who don’t take tombstone photos with smartphones.
I should be able to choose a cemetery, select “Upload image” and upload it from my computer or non-iPhone smartphone. It might not be geotagged, but it would be in the right cemetery and people would be able to access the image and the record.
I’m a long-time FindAGrave user and contributor, but there are things about the site that drive me batty. I had hoped that Billion Graves would give FindAGrave a run for its money. I think healthy competition is a good thing. Innovation tends to flow in a healthy competitive environment. I had hoped that Billion Graves would either force FindAGrave to make some improvements or would become the “go to” site for tombstone images. As it stands right now, Billion Graves is not the competition I had hoped it would be. Maybe they will be willing to listen to some constructive criticism.
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Becky Jamison said:
I have a new iPhone and hope to upload some photo to this site and I’ve transcribed a couple dozen headstones, but I agree with every one of your points and hope that BillionGraves.com pays attention and makes the necessary changes. Thank you for posting it so intelligently!
tklaiber said:
While the idea is interesting I think that instead of a new site that this might be something that could have been incorporated with findagrave which has the format in such a way that answers reverse side, etc. I personally think that the quality of the photos with iphones is not the quality of digital cameras “yet” which is another drawback. & since I don’t use the iphone but have my camera with me 24/7 this is another drawback as you pointed out. As always good posts gal!
Kristy Stewart said:
Amy, I work with BillionGraves.com, and I can tell you our developers are very grateful for your review. Sometimes it’s hard for us to see the flaws when we’re caught up in the middle of the project. We’re already working on several of the issues you brought up.
I wasn’t able to find your email address on this blog (perfectly understandable), but I was wondering if I could get in touch with you to run future developments by you. If you’re interested, please email me at kristy.stewart (at) billiongraves.com.
Amy said:
Kristy,
Thank you so much for your reply. Being a developer myself, I know exactly what you mean about getting caught up in the project. I’m thankful that you and the BillionGraves team saw my comments as constructive criticism. That can be hard to do when you’re so “invested” in a project. I will send you an email shortly.
Amy
taneya said:
Hi Amy – with the recent release of the Android version of the app, I was able to use it yesterday. I loved it! I wanted to share my blog post with you http://goo.gl/GPrjq.
Amy said:
Thanks for the heads-up on the Android app. I was at the American Library Association conference this past weekend and missed the news about it. I hope to have a chance to work with it this weekend. (I’m glad my phone is on the “Yes” list!)
Greg Smith said:
Amy, have you seen the new Restingspot app? Just saw it in a Legacy email. If so, how does it compare to Billion Graves?
Thanks!
Amy said:
Greg,
I have not had an opportunity to download the Resting Spot app yet. That is on the to-do list for this weekend. Look for a review coming soon!
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